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Question about 2 year old with discoid ezcema that has not responded well
Our 2 year old daughter has discoid ezcema that has not responded well
despite mutliple short courses of prednisolone and antibiotics, constant
wet dressings, topical corticosteroids and a rigid moisturising routine. Her
dermatologist feels the next step is methotrexate, which we are trying to
avoid. She picks at her lesions constantly, wakes up with blood all over
the sheets and is becoming scarred and disfigured. We heard your cream helped
someone, and we have tried EVERYTHING - homeopathy, chinese medicine, diet
restriction (ongoing) as well as all the conventional stuff. We are praying
that your balm will work miracles! Thanks.
Hi, Apply the
Hypoallergenic Balm as often as possible, if no result within 1 week
let me know and I will send you some of our Psorexederm ointment which is
not on the Web site since it requires our selection and recommendation. You
would then apply the 2 alternately. Try the balm first to see how the eczema
responds and let me know how you are going. I will be away from Jan 14-21
so any email in that time I will respond too after that. Hopefully you
will get a good response. Do not discontinue any cortisone she is currently
using as this will cause a cortisone withdrawal flare up about 2-3 days after
stopping the cortisone. I tend to be conservative so give it a 50/50 chance
of helping. Hopefully it will and certainly let me know how things
go. Kind Regards, David Hosking 3/01/08
Hi David,
Thanks for your email, I really appreciate your advice. With regards to her
cortisone ointment (Elocon), I am finding that she has become 'resistant' to its
effectiveness. We have not been able to have the recommended 'rest' periods ie:
stop using the creams for a few days before starting again, as it is never under
control. And even when we are using it continuously, in addition to wet
dressings/ moisturising etc, the eczema is still pretty severe. Should I be
trying another cortisone? (we have used Celestone in the past which was not
effective). I was hoping to use your cream instead of Elocon as I feel it is not
benefitting her and yet she is being exposed to the risks of ongoing use.
Another problem I've had with some of the creams I've tried is that many of
them really hurt her. eg) Dermaveen Eczema cream which I tried yesterday. She
seems to be okay with QV cream and plain sorbolene and Dermeeze. Is it likely
that your product will cause her pain when applied?
Thanks very much,
Hi,
None of our products cause pain when applied, I try to follow the axiom that the treatment
should not be worse than the disease.
I would continue to use the Elocon under the Balm to avoid a flare-up occurring due to
sudden cortisone withdrawal which occurs about 2-4 days after stopping a cortisone cream.
Apply the Elocon as before and use our balm over the top about 3-4 times a day.
When improvement occurs ,halve the elocon dose for the next week and continue with the balm as above.
Then all being well, stop the elocon on the third week.
This seems to work well for most people.
You may get flare-ups from time to time and need to add the elocon occasionally. This usually
happens after a cold or something stimulating the immune system. If so just repeat the
procedure as above to get the eczema under control again. Children do grow out of it
so I suspect it is related to immune responses. Sometimes adding claratyne or zyrtec syrup
may help but try one thing at a time so you can see what is working,
Kind Regards,
David Hosking 7/01/08
QUESTION: my daughter's eczema - I think it may be discoid eczema. I don't like to
be dependent upon cortizone
I've learnt a bit about discoid eczema and I realise it may take time to clear up. The last time
my daughter had the problem, it was over 5 years ago but also on her feet. It was incorrectly
dealt with from the start and took over 9 months to clear. It seems very similar to the last
time she had it and the eczema gets infected with golden staph, but not the antibiotic
resistant strain.
As I was more aware this time of what the problem was, I have had the advantage of knowing a
little more about treatment from the start, although I thought she just had tinea for several
weeks before I finally realised it had developed into eczema. My problem is that I seem to be
able to keep the eczema under control to an extent, but it's still a bit of a mystery to me,
and I really don't like using cortizone cream regularly which we presently doing. We're using
Eulaphrat ? cortizone once a day, on top of 50% sorbolene, under a damp dressing for 20 minutes.
I just keep putting sorbolene on as many times as I can during the day as well as an eczema
cream - Medihoney. So far we've gone through 2 cycles of 7 days with cortizone, in between
those 2 cycles, 4 days without cortizone for the first 'round' and 5 days off last week.
Then after the 5th day off, there was inflammation again, and the next day blisters and today,
large blisters. Today has been the 4th day of cortizone. Do you think that the product you are
recommending would help?
I'm sorry that I don't know how to send an image, but I can describe it - it's only a relative
small area on the tops of two toes (little toe and the next one to it) and a bit on the foot
area just above where the toes join. There's another area underneath the third toe and tonight
I noticed two large blisters, but they don't appear to be very painful. On the other foot,
it's on nearly the same place - on the area just where the little toe joins the next toe
but not on the toe itself.
Finally, I was given a tube of antibiotic ointment to put on the area three times a day,
but it didn't really seem to do anything to help, especially when there isn't a flare up.
Any ideas, and as I asked above, do you think your product could be incorporated so as to
stop using the cortizone - and yet keeping the flare ups under control?
ANSWER:
'Discoid dermatitis (nummular eczema) presents as round or oval plaques of
dermatitis with clearly demarcated edges. The plaques are prone to secondary
bacterial infection. The condition is not uncommon and usually presents in
middle to late adult life but may occur in children. The cause is unknown,
but dry skin and overheating are important aggravating factors.
If you are able to email me an image of the affected area I may be able to
help. Our Psorexederm cream is anti-inflammatory with antibacterial
properties and is also excellent at reducing itch.
As the
Hypoallergenic face and body balm
is more protective than sorbolene,
I would replace the sorbolene with the balm.
That should immediately stop the blistering which I imagine must be painful.
Avoid the medihoney as it can dry out the skin and do the cycles again with the
eleuphrat and Hypoallergenic balm only with a damp dressing on top.
I think you will be very surprised at the improvement as we have had experience
with this before and the last child was eventually completely recovered.
I don't promise that, but an improvement well worth the effort should result.
Kind Regards,
David Hosking 8/8/08
Introducing David's Hypoallergenic Face and Body Balm
We formulated the lavender -free balm (removed the lavender oil) for infants, babys and children
with hypersensitivities. The hypoallergenic balm should work precisely the
same as our Lavender Balm product, although, of course,
it does not come with the lovely smell and color of the Lavender oil.
The hypo allergenic product without lavender oil conforms to the guidelines of
Sue Dengate ( see;
http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/)
who is prominent in helping children with food additive sensitivities. These
children also tend to have eczema and so the Hypoallergenic product without
lavender was born after requests from a number of customers. Directions for use
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